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TURIN SHROUD IS ONE PIECE SO IT IS A FAKE
The Turin Shroud is the most famous relic in the world. Millions believe that it is the burial cloth of Jesus Christ bearing his crucified and bloodied image. The cloth is kept at Turin in Italy. It is all one piece.
In John 19:40 we read that Jesus was prepared for burial according to the Jewish custom. If the Jewish burial custom John refers to implies that Jesus' face was covered by a napkin in the tomb then the Shroud is a fake. John 20:7 seems to refer to the napkin.
John had explained that Lazarus was buried like a mummy in strips with a napkin over the bare face. That was the custom. So John says that Jesus being wrapped up in cloths, strips and spices was according to the custom of the Jews.
It is held by some twisters that Jewish custom simply means that the body was washed (Acts 9:37). The gospels do not say if he was.
They can't admit that Jesus was laid out the same way as Lazarus was for that means they would have to confess the Turin Shroud to be a forgery. Now Jesus being said in John to have been prepared for burial means more than just a washing. As there was no time, he might have been splashed but not washed properly. John would have written that Jesus was washed. You don't say somebody being washed before burial is preparation for burial according to any custom. That would be too unclear. And besides the Shroud man was obviously not washed despite liars who say it was.
Incredibly, there is no dirt but only blood and sweat. That is a sign of inauthenticity for Jesus should have been filthy.
Jesus did not like rigid customs (Mark 7) so it is argued that the people who buried him might not have been strictly traditional in the other things. But Jesus could not have had any objection to the burial customs – they were harmless and necessary. They were not like fussing over what was unclean and not clean like in the peccadilloes of Jewish tradition. So Jesus could have been washed, anointed and then bound in strips of linen like Jews were.
The John gospel was a gospel meant for non-Jews. Jews would find it too hostile to their leaders and religion to even want to read it. The author then by telling us about how Lazarus was clothed in the tomb and how Jesus was anointed and so on was explaining what he meant by the Jewish burial custom. Jesus' face was bare in the tomb. Therefore the Turin Shroud is a fake.
The anointings and spices would have mingled with his dried blood and sweat stains making excessively messy and greasy marks which is exactly what we do not have on the Shroud. There should have been a lot of smearing as Jesus was eased into the cloth. If he were plastered in spices as John says then he would have been sticky. There is no evidence of a glue effect. There would be if the cloth were real.
Criminals were buried in their blood (page 218, The Divine Deception). If you believe that Jesus was washed then the Shroud is a hoax.
Some who say that since they believe that the man on the Shroud was washed, that he could not have been a real Jew and so was not Jesus Christ (page 219, The Divine Deception).
Here is an insight from the book, The Shroud of Turin!! Is it Genuine or is it a Forgery? Dr Johnson C Philip, Dr Saneesh Cherian, Edited by Gregory Anderson. Creative Commons. Copyright Philip Communication. First Edition 2014. "Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury”. Many of these aromatic compounds immediately stain the Shroud and leave a permanent mark and imprint, but not even a trace of any of these past-like chemicals have every been discovered on the Shroud, though their quantity was approximately 40 kilograms.
Robin Lane Fox tells us that that the Shroud would refute the gospels which are the only evidence for Jesus’ death if it is real. He notes that the John gospel said Jesus was buried according to the Jewish custom which would mean he was washed and the spices rubbed into the body are mentioned. The spices would have distorted the bloodstains if there were any after the washing and there is no evidence of rubbing on the Shroud man (page 251, The Unauthorized Version). The Shroud man definitely was not dowsed in spices and oils. "Neither myrrh or aloes is found on the cloth" (Christianity in the Light of Science). The absence of these is fatal if you want to believe the shroud is real. Their absence is of extreme importance. The gospel of John (19) says a record number of spices and oils were used. Even when he was alive and well, Jesus spoke of this being marinated in oil. Jesus in John 12 when he gets smeared with expensive oil says she is preparing him for burial which obviously hints that he will get expensive oil on the day of his burial some time later.
Matthew, Mark and Luke say Jesus was wrapped in linen courtesy of Joseph of Arimathea and friend. He was put in the linen when he was taken down from the cross. So he would have been carried to the tomb in it. Some say that the gospels had a big Shroud in mind. But think. Joseph of Arimathea and Co were not going to prepare Jesus for burial as soon as they took him down from the cross. That was not a job to be undertaken at the foot of the cross. They probably put him in a linen sheet for the purpose of carrying him or covering him as they transported him to the tomb. In the tomb, they may have cut up the sheet to make strips of linen. He was bandaged up and that was him ready for burial. It is not likely that they used strips of linen already prepared to get him ready for entombment. That was unnecessary. They cut up the cloth they transported him in.
If the Turin Shroud were real one might expect the marks of the transportation to show for then Jesus would have been moving in transit and was taken out of cloth and rearranged in it again.
Some such as Shea think that Jesus would have been buried in a ragged and worn and dirty shroud. If he is right, then the Turin cloth is not authentic. There is no evidence in the New Testament for a high quality shroud such as the Turin cloth would be. Joseph being rich might not have got an expensive shroud. A clean cheap one would do. The notion that Joseph went to great expense is just a notion. We must remember too that Jesus had died in disgrace so there was no pressure on anyone to go to great expense to bury him. He was lucky to have a cheap clean cloth to be laid to rest in. Even rags would have been a blessing under the circumstances.
In John we read nothing about this big sheet but of strips of linen. We know the cloths John mentions are the strips like Lazarus was buried in (John 11) for he says it was a traditional burial. It is said that the contradiction is solved only if Jesus was carried to the tomb in the burial cloth which was torn into strips to wrap him up like an Egyptian mummy.
Jesus was not wrapped both in a Shroud and then in strips with the strips over the Shroud for he was buried like Lazarus who was able to walk out of the tomb because each of his legs was individually wrapped and like the youth of Naim who was able to sit up in the bier meaning his arms must have been individually wrapped.
The evidence is that the Turin Shroud is a hoax.
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